02/20/2008 23:46:32

WOW Ok Loveconquersall,  Just the other night i stayed up into the late hours digging in the Bible for that very thing.  I was raised in the United Pentecostal Church and at the age of 13 left.  I now have since gone back to church recently but to a COGIC church.  Where the doctrine is exactly the same EXCEPT ...COGIC preaches  the TRINITY  where as UPC preaches ONENESS.  I have been struggling in my convictions also since being refilled with the Holy Ghost. The Holyness standards differ greatly from UPC and COGIC.  So I am battling with this, which I was raised (UPC) and COGIC.... Well I could go on  about this much more. So if you would like to discuss this more let me know.  Id love to!

02/04/2008 14:16:22

This is beautiful! Cogic Community.com. Who's idea was it ? I did make a complaint because there didn't seem to be a place for a cogic single or widow to go to meet other cogics.Maybe somebody me or somebody heard somebody. Never the less, it's a good thing. I don't mean to change the subject, but I want to tell all my cogic's ! Word up, a heads up ! Know your doctrine.More than that, know the word of God. I dare not go around trying to make anyone who sincerely claim salvation in Jesus as not saved. Because I have been going through some "Job Trials of Life," I have been visiting another denomination because they are preaching, teaching, uplifting and loving on the name that all saved people should be and that's Jesus. But, and I'm still learning, but , they are saying that no one can be saved unless they are baptised. They are saying if you are not baptised you can't be saved. To take it further, they are saying if you are not baptised in Jesus name, you can't be saved. My question is , what did Jesus say do ? Note, all the disciples did baptise in Jesus name ,though Jesus said Baptise in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. The Bible does say whatever you do, do all in the name of Jesus. It takes the scripture to explain the scripture. There' many scriptures that I can give but I won't at this point. I still believe what Jesus said. If I had to baptise someone I would do it like I keep to my doctrine but I would say, " In the name of Jesus, I baptise you in the name of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. Why ? Because, that's what Jesus said to do. Again, what did Jesus say do ? We must look into exactly what the disciples were saying when they Baptised in Jesus name. To say that we must be bapstised to be saved would take us back to works and we know that salvation is not of works let's any man should boost. Not only that, it would tie back to the law and we are no longer under the law. We are under grace. Is there any cogics out there who would like to share scripture, knowledge and wisdom on this ? Im a cogin, being restored after my Job trials, visiting another denomination who claims salvation. Singing , shouting and dancing with them. Somethings I don't buy, but I do , we do believe in Jesus. Signed . LOveconquersall